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Re: Notices of Artists’ Passings

Post by Dee » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:12 pm

Did Steve Hardin use a pseudonym for songwriting when he was hired to write songs for Glen Campbell and others? (as opposed to when he wrote songs on his own, not under contract)

From Steve Hardin's bio on Wikipedia:
While back in L.A. with Steppenwolf (late seventies?), Hardin learned that Glen Campbell was wanting to hire a full-time writer for his records, tours, and T.V. performances. He interviewed, got the job, and spent the next five years working with Glen writing songs (using the name Joe Rainey), touring, and performing on The Glen Campbell Music Show.
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As Mike mentioned, a pseudonym could have been used for contractual reasons or as part of a financial arrangement (for royalty reasons)?

From BMI's website:
Q: If someone hires me to write a song for them, who owns the copyright and how long does it run?

A: For such “works made for hire,” as they are called, the employer is considered the author, and the copyright, which the employer owns, runs for either 95 years from the time the work was first published or 120 years from the time you created it, whichever is shorter. (That is the same copyright term for an anonymous or pseudonymous work.) In order for the work to be considered “made for hire,” it must be prepared by an employee in the scope of his employment under a traditional employee-employer relationship, or else it must be commissioned as one of several special categories of works (such as part of a motion picture or other audio/visual work) with there being a written agreement between the parties that it is to be for hire.
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Re: Notices of Artists’ Passings

Post by Mike Joyce » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:27 pm

That's a good question rickv404.
Jerry Reed did the same thing also "Today is mine" and "She understands me" under the name Hubbard on Glen's The last time I saw her album. I wonder if it is a contractual thing with the record companies.
I have heard before that artists have been told to use a different name when writing or they risk breaking some condition of their contacts with an existing label they are signed to.
It would be great to here the answer on this one.



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Re: Notices of Artists’ Passings

Post by rickv404 » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:45 am

Anyone know why did he used the pseudonym "Joe Rainey"? He also co-wrote "Rollin'", "Arkansas" and a duet with T.Tucker, "My Song".



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Re: Notices of Artists’ Passings

Post by Mike Joyce » Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:12 am

You are right arlw, it was the live in Dublin concert (1981) in which you can see a good selection of songs Steve Hardin played live on stage. The stage was very cramped as I recall and I got the impression it was a very warm theatre as all the band members seemed to be suffering from the heat including Glen. They did release a double alum of that concert also.
As you say arlw, there are many DVD copies available on ebay and Amazon etc.



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Re: Notices of Artists’ Passings

Post by Randy » Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:39 am

Thank you for sharing that Arlw..... NOT



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Re: Notices of Artists’ Passings

Post by arlw » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:05 pm

Steve was into a lot of other things that wasn't a great influence on Glen, but it was his choice....May he rest in peace.



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Re: Notices of Artists’ Passings

Post by arlw » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:02 pm

Sheila T,

Steve Hardin was very talented in many things, music and writing. He sure will be missed. I met him in Fort Worth when Cal was born-Glen was at Billy Bob's with the band and Kim with Cal--he was no older than 2-3 months!! This DVD might have him on it: I remember Steve doing some hits with Glen and Carl Jackson outside and they were literally soaked with sweat--I believe it was an overseas Concert Listed 3 below-=-they are available at Amazon.com.

The Best of the Glen Campbell Music Show DVD/Glen Campbell: Live in Dublin/

Legends In Concert / Glen Campbell - The Rhinestone Cowboy
by Sonic Pictures

• 1 - Rhinestone cowboy,2 - Gentle on my mind,3 - Wichita lineman,4 - Galveston,5 - Country boy,6 - By the time I get to phoenix,7 - Heartache number three,8 - Please come to boston,9 - Trials & tribulations,10 - Blue grass instrumental,11 - Milk cow blues,12 - I'm so lonely I could cry,13 - Southern nights,14 - Amazing grace,15 - Try a little kindness,16 - Mull of Kintyre,



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Re: Notices of Artists’ Passings

Post by shelia6673 » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:57 pm

Thanks for the info on Steve. I too remember him from the 80's and have a CD from concert Glen did I believe it was around London or Scotland
where Steve did I'm so lonesome I Could Cry and it was a wonderful job he did. I think there was also a DVD of that concert but for the life of me
cannot remember exactly where it was. But a good concert

Shelia T



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Re: Notices of Artists’ Passings

Post by Mike Joyce » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:59 am

That is sad Dee.
I will always remember him as a very kind man. And who could forget his harmonica playing on the live versions of I'm so lonesome I could cry. Boy he had such breath control.



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Re: Notices of Artists’ Passings

Post by Dee » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:21 am

Thanks, Mike.

I have been remiss to not have reported the passing of Steve Hardin on June 28, 2015. Steve had worked/toured with Glen Campbell as a music director, keyboardist and harmonica soloist. Steve was a member of Glen's Caledonia band beginning in 1980. He was a songwriter of top selling country songs including "I Love My Truck", which Glen recorded. He wrote songs for Glen such as: "A Few Good Men" from the 1991 album Show Me Your Way and "Heartache Number Three" and "It's Your World Boys and Girls" from the 1981 album, Glen Campbell Live.

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