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Re: Glen Campbell and Jimmy Webb

Post by robduloc » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:55 pm

Jimmy Webb breaks the shrink wrap to one side so that the cellophane is still intact in case you want to keep and preserve the outer stickers, a feat! My "Voices" OST and Dee's "Highwayman" just need a plastic slip case, it is nice to see and know the part that's partially torn is by the Composer!

Way to go, Jimmy Webb!



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Re: Glen Campbell and Jimmy Webb

Post by robduloc » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:43 pm

This last November I registered on the Jimmy Webb Community, I studied all the main albums on the front page and uh, purchased them all!

There were a few titles missing, his OST's. The CD for "The Last Unicorn" is ultra-rare, you know.

And I found a link where Jimmy Webb says around 1967 when Capitol were pushing a solo career the label issued a first release for all intensive purposes were just his demos, it resurfaced as a Japanese CD, but our Maestro said that it is, well, you get the picture.

So I had around 14 titles for him to sign, I am glad to know that there is a "Glen n' Me" tour, because I can bring all my GC memorabilia to that.

I did make sure to have him sign a very special copy of the Lp Glen Campbell "Highwayman".

The shrink wrap has three gold stickers, stating that it is a souvenir of Music City USA Country Music Factory Outlet.

He had to break the shrink wrap to sign it, of the 14 titles he signed for me that night this is the only album that smudged a little, I was out of breath by the time he was finished.

The ink is in silver and the part that smudged is where the last three letters of his last name go, on the dark blue background the silver ink does look like a lightning bolt and the smudge an electrical disturbance~ it was!

Dee sent me an autograph by him when she saw him in Nashville, that's why I'm saving this edition for a present, be looking on your stoop for a box!

Love,
Rob



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Re: Glen Campbell and Jimmy Webb

Post by robduloc » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:24 pm

The first night I saw Jimmy Webb perform was the first time he had sung in a couple months, he spent most of the evening talking about Glen Campbell.



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Re: Glen Campbell and Jimmy Webb

Post by robduloc » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:03 pm

Jimmy Webb turns to the audience and asks, "Does anyone know what a follow up song is"?

This is where I need a camera or pad to take notes, the magician revealing trade secrets, it isn't all smoke and mirrors- if I could remember the exact words to his reply, I very well may possess the secret formula for rocket fuel!

Something along the lines that a follow up song has to have some of the same words or conjure the same imagery.

Jimmy Webb continues.

After the success of "Phoenix" Glen Campbell calls... you have to take into account he can sing in 5 octaves and so it is always interesting to hear him talk in that unmistakable upper register of his and still be in the lower range at the same time, "Do you have a follow up to Phoenix with the name of a town in it".

"I don't know Glen, I'm sort of past my Rand & McNally period".

A pause over the phone, "Really"? "Well.. Do you have something... Geographical"?

I had a few pieces of paper or manuscript that was most of Wichita Lineman but I was far from done, but because he was in a hurry, and had Al de Lory working on all those great arrangements for him, I wrote a note on top of it to send off as a package, "Dear Glen and Al, it isn't finished but let me know if you see something about it you like, love Jimmy".

A couple weeks later I run into Glen Campbell, I stop and ask, "Did you find anything that you like about the song"

"Like it? We cut it"!



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Re: Glen Campbell and Jimmy Webb

Post by robduloc » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:54 pm

Jimmy Webb turns to the audience and asks, "Does anyone know what a follow up song is"?

This is where I need a camera or pad to take notes, the magician revealing trade secrets, it isn't all smoke and mirrors- the hardware involved, if I could remember the exact words to his reply, I very well could have the secret formula for rocket fuel!

Something along the lines that a follow up song has to have some of the same words or conjure the same picture.

Jimmy Webb continues.

After the success of "Phoenix" Glen Campbell calls, you have to take into account he can sing in 5 octaves and so it is always interesting to hear him talk in that unmistakable upper register of his and still be in the lower range at the same time, Do you have a follow up to "Phoenix" with the name of a town in it.

I don't know Glen, I'm sort of past my Rand & McNally period".

A pause over the phone, "Really"? Well... do you have something... "Geographical"?

I had a few pieces of paper or manuscript that was most of Wichita Lineman but I was far from done, but because he was in a hurry, and had Al de Lory working on all those great arrangements for him, I wrote a note on top of it to send off as a package, Dear Glen and Al, it isn't finished but let me know if you see something about it you like, love Jimmy.

A couple weeks later I run into Glen Campbell, I stop and ask, "Did you find anything that you like about the song"

"Like it? We cut it"!



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Re: Glen Campbell and Jimmy Webb

Post by robduloc » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:20 pm

It is.



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Re: Glen Campbell and Jimmy Webb

Post by robduloc » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:13 pm

The applause at the beginning of Sergeant Pepper is instantly recognizable, The Beasty Boys knew this when they were able to sample or use it.

And so, sampling is tied to our a cultural experience, a frame of reference, any recording in the early 70's that I've never heard before I can usually guess within the year it it was produced.

I'm sure that Kenye West is saying Nina Simone meets Jimmy Webb is totally cool~ It Is !



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Re: Glen Campbell and Jimmy Webb

Post by robduloc » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:03 pm

I woke up this morning after my initial post in this topic and felt like I had been downloaded into some sort of matrix, let me affirm Jimmy Webb can take it as a compliment if one of his works get sampled!

George Martin may have been one of the first Producers to do it.

He explains in his autobiography he had taped a comedy show at a University featuring Dudley Moore and Peter Cook, he used the applause for the beginning of Sergeant Pepper Lonely Hearts Club Band, the audience was dressed up in all their finery, jewelry and fur coats, the applause captures an audience that is totally stimulated.

And yes, Apple Records held tight reins on their material and made sure it was never sampled.

One of the first groups to get around that were The Beastie Boys, they were able to use the applause off Sergeant Pepper because the sound of the crowd was, well- Public Domain! Talk about, "Beyond The Fringe"!

The two shows I saw were the first two dates on Jimmy Webb's new tour, he spent around 11 minutes the first night talking about his song being sampled, that's why I felt I could jump in here.

It was interesting to hear Jimmy Webb's story vary over the course of the two evenings, the second night while he was talking about the Grammy's he mentioned that Dean Martin's family was up for a Lifetime Achievement Award, they were seated near the front of the stage, the sponsors waited for a commercial break, ran down and presented the award off camera leaning over the family before they could get up out of their seats, roughly three minutes before the broadcast resumed, truly a shame to the people Jimmy Webb cited as the guts of the industry.
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Re: Glen Campbell and Jimmy Webb

Post by robduloc » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:35 pm

Thank you, Mike! What a beautiful post~

Yes, seeing Jimmy Webb for the first time is indeed, a series of firsts!

For instance hearing Richard Harris always called him by his full name in that thick Irish Accent of his, "Jimmy Webb"!



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Re: Glen Campbell and Jimmy Webb

Post by Mike Joyce » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:08 pm

Hi robduloc,
Nice to see you posting again. I have seen Jimmy twice now and yes he tells the same stories between the songs.
I noticed you mention Jimmy saw the guy on the telegraph pole when he was still a child sitting in the back of his parents car. I hadn't heard that story before and it was a revelation to me. I assumed it had happened when he was an adult and was driving his own car at some point just prior to writing the song Wichita Lineman. I remember he mentioned that it happened in a place called Wastcha, but he felt the name didn't sound as good as Wichita.
A bit like By the Time I get to Phoenix would lose it's romance. if it was called By the Time I get to Bognor. No offence to anyone living in Bognor Regis.
I hope you enjoyed the show as much as I enjoyed seeing Jimmy for the first time. I kept saying to myself, here is the man who has created all those songs from his soul which have filled my life and I am here listening to him recreate those gems with his vocals and on his piano. A moment to remember for always.



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